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Post by vivace on Mar 15, 2012 19:36:17 GMT -5
i like what i am seeing from these reviews. It seems like they either love it, if they like something about OSI or they hate it if they just think its going to be early DT or metal. Basically its not metal. Its a good sign because i happen to love OSI.
On some level i sympathize with earl grey...i mean its not metal, its just not. Its kinda been marketed that way since its Jim and Kevin two founders of the prog metal genre but why cant people see they are trying to found something new? i guess its all a mrketing challenge.
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Post by jono on Mar 15, 2012 20:36:55 GMT -5
i like what i am seeing from these reviews. It seems like they either love it, if they like something about OSI or they hate it if they just think its going to be early DT or metal. Basically its not metal. Its a good sign because i happen to love OSI. On some level i sympathize with earl grey...i mean its not metal, its just not. Its kinda been marketed that way since its Jim and Kevin two founders of the prog metal genre but why cant people see they are trying to found something new? i guess its all a mrketing challenge. Yes! my point exactly!
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Post by Mebert78 on Mar 19, 2012 9:59:39 GMT -5
Review by DangerDog... Links: www.dangerdog.com/2012-music-reviews/osi-fire-make-thunder.phpHere's the good news, OSI's fourth effort, Fire Make Thunder is better than the previous lackluster Blood. While there's still some of that ambient atmospheric sound, there's a return to more progressive rock. Many songs feel heftier, meatier, thanks to the inspired riffage from Jim Matheos. Kevin Moore's synths and sampling still provide atmosphere and buoyancy, but don't seem to be the pervasive element the were previously. When these elements work together as on Cold Call, Guards, Enemy Prayer, or Big Chief II, you have seem prime material, both intriguing and entertaining. Other times and other songs simply don't impress as easily, notably the sleepy For Nothing or the lengthy and wearing Invisible Men. The latter song tries to get fired up two-thirds through, but mostly remains mostly melancholy and timid. Regardless of my opinion of Fire Make Thunder, OSI remains true to the partnership of two talented musicians engaging their eclectic musical styles for experimentation and intrigue.
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Post by vivace on Mar 19, 2012 12:32:11 GMT -5
ok now i am starting to get ticked. Who aRE these reViewers?? Blood was 'lackluster' ? cmon it was my favorite album by far and i think the majority of OSI fans loved it. .....annoying....why cant they get soemone that actually likes this kind of music to give a review.
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Post by Mebert78 on Mar 19, 2012 14:13:02 GMT -5
Yeah, reviews are annoying. If I were a musician, I wouldn't be able to read them. I wouldn't be able to read a message board or forum either, lol. I thought Blood was great. My only complaint is the long silence at the start of "Be The Hero," because I always have to fast forward to get to the start of the song, lol. I'm sure Fire Make Thunder will deliver the goods. Kevin never disappoints.
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Post by virtueorvice on Mar 19, 2012 14:41:05 GMT -5
I liked this one!
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Post by virtueorvice on Mar 19, 2012 14:44:58 GMT -5
Yeah, reviews are annoying. If I were a musician, I wouldn't be able to read them. I wouldn't be able to read a message board or forum either, lol. I thought Blood was great. My only complaint is the long silence at the start of "Be The Hero," because I always have to fast forward to get to the start of the song, lol. I'm sure Fire Make Thunder will deliver the goods. Kevin never disappoints. We are all somehow biased. But well, i believe reviews are worth reading. Reviews even can show the musician something he hasn't perceived himself in his own work. Haha, but, some reviews are intentionally annoying and mean to defame unjustly!
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Post by Zero on Mar 19, 2012 19:50:29 GMT -5
We are all somehow biased. But well, i believe reviews are worth reading. Reviews even can show the musician something he hasn't perceived himself in his own work. Haha, but, some reviews are intentionally annoying and mean to defame unjustly! I think it's a matter of kinds of 'review,' maybe. I mean, most reviews are pretty much just 'this is good, buy it/this is bad, stay away' types, which generally aren't going to teach a musician that much; these are generally what you're going to get when people are reviewing an album prior to or right after its release, when it's pretty much just a paid first impression. On the other hand, you could have 'reviews' which are closer to what we people in the literature side of things would call 'criticism,' concerned with why a person likes the work (ie. why it is effective), how it functions, what it means for them, etc., and from these it's quite possible to learn something. At least, speaking from my experience as a poet, there's a lot you don't realize about what makes a poem effective while in the process of making it sound effective. Sometimes you add stuff because it sounds cool, more or less, and it turns out that it sounds cool because of some thematic relations, etc. Generally speaking, negative reviews don't fall into the above category, because people generally aren't going to spend a long time on something which they dislike in order to write something worthwhile about it; that is, unless there's something which they do in fact like about it but which they think it does somewhat badly, but that's not a purely negative review, and I haven't seen many. I don't think it's really a question of 'metalness' per se. 'Metal' is a very wide genre, and the issue is rather that they have a very narrow conception of what they want from 'metal,' or what kind of metal they want. Reminds me somewhat of the thrash purists who bash bands like Anacrusis, Depressive Age, etc., because 'thrash is meant to be Heavy and headbangey!' Or the 'metal is just about riffs' thing, I suppose. Eh, if things like APSoG are classified as progressive metal, I don't see why OSI wouldn't be, especially with songs like 'Big Chief II' and 'Cold Call.' The 'progressive' genres are wide enough that most notable bands have founded something new, or indeed are counted as progressive because of it. That said: Other times and other songs simply don't impress as easily, notably the sleepy For Nothing or the lengthy and wearing Invisible Men. The latter song tries to get fired up two-thirds through, but mostly remains mostly melancholy and timid. You may have something of a point as far as some reviews are concerned.
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Post by arthur42 on Apr 9, 2012 14:43:37 GMT -5
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Post by blinddeafmute on Apr 9, 2012 15:48:14 GMT -5
Nice review. What about Guards?
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Post by arthur42 on Apr 9, 2012 16:59:05 GMT -5
Oops, I guess I forgot that track. It wasn't intended to go through all the tracks - but coincidentally I mentioned all of them besides Guards.
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Post by sknowbird on Dec 19, 2012 1:59:33 GMT -5
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