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Post by samsara on Jul 9, 2009 14:40:45 GMT -5
I was talking to our esteemed forum administrator on e-mail earlier, and as it turns out, we both agree that Kevin Moore and Chris DeGarmo (former songwriter/guitarist of Queensryche) subscribed to the policy of "less is more" in creating great music.
Anyone else think a Moore/Matheos/DeGarmo combination might produce some staggeringly good results?
I really think it would work nicely. Given how good OSI is, you add DeGarmo into that mix, and you've got another great ear for melody, arguably the best pure songwriter in the bunch, a guitarist equal to Matheos, and another singer that I believe would harmonize nicely with Moore, considering DeGarmo used to sing many of the high harmonies with Geoff Tate.
Thoughts?
p.s. nice to be here. I'm more of an OSI fan than a full-on Kevin Moore fan, but I enjoy what he brought to Dream Theater, and feel that Kev is missed tremendously by that band. I'm thrilled to see him doing great music with Jim in OSI.
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Post by vivace on Jul 9, 2009 15:02:17 GMT -5
OK
I mean i like Mind Crime. But i also feel that Queensryche went downhill immediately after they moved from Montreal to Seattle and did Empire.
DeGarmo i think had a thing for really structured songs and choruses and everything, and frankly i think he wanted commercial success.
For some reason when they did OMC they managed to bottle revolutionary vibe of Montreal at the time and yea it was a great record.
But i kind of think he succumbed to the cheese trying to produce commercial hits. Silent Lucidity i guess was the one success.
On the other hand Ryches post DeGarmo stuff is unlistenable for me ...but then so is like 80% of it after mind crime.
I guess what I am saying is that although I do love some of his work, I cant really put Degarmo in the same league as Moore.
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Post by Mebert78 on Jul 9, 2009 15:18:08 GMT -5
Welcome, brian. lol. Well, I think it would be an interesting mix. I mean, DeGarmo was a very emotional songwriter, as is Kevin. That's really why I like QR and Kevin so much, because of the emotion they convey. Matheos also has that emotion. A Pleasant Shade of Gray is one of my top 5 albums because it is so dark and deep. But would it be DeGarmo of Promised Land era (which would be a great combo with Kevin) or the HITNF-era DeGarmo, which would not sound so great IMO.
Also, I think Kevin can make collaborations difficult because he seems to butt heads with other musicians that want to be heavily involved in the songwriting process. We saw this in the Portnoy situation with OSI and Matheos even admitted in interviews that Kev was challenging to work with on OSI1, although he said he ends up liking the finished product so he doesn't mind the process. For some reason, he and Matheos can co-exist musically. Would it work with another guuitarist? Maybe. DeGarmo almost seemed like a friendly guy and easy to get along with, so he would be a good choice. I'd rather see him back with QR though!
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Post by wiche on Jul 9, 2009 15:32:49 GMT -5
I was talking to our esteemed forum administrator on e-mail earlier, and as it turns out, we both agree that Kevin Moore and Chris DeGarmo (former songwriter/guitarist of Queensryche) subscribed to the policy of "less is more" in creating great music. Anyone else think a Moore/Matheos/DeGarmo combination might produce some staggeringly good results? I really think it would work nicely. Given how good OSI is, you add DeGarmo into that mix, and you've got another great ear for melody, arguably the best pure songwriter in the bunch, a guitarist equal to Matheos, and another singer that I believe would harmonize nicely with Moore, considering DeGarmo used to sing many of the high harmonies with Geoff Tate. Thoughts? |
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Post by samsara on Jul 9, 2009 17:13:44 GMT -5
Interesting replies so far. I think that it possibly could be a "too many chefs in the kitchen" situation if all parties went into it thinking they were the "lead." But one thing Matheos and DeGarmo have shown is that they can blend into a project if they are satisfied with the creative vision.
DeGarmo's strength would be song structure, melody, and nuance. Matheos would have the chunky riffs. And of course, Moore would have lyrics, the overall vision, and provide the sonic backdrop to it all.
I think it COULD work, but yeah, you'd have a lot of egos to contend with.
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Post by samsara on Jul 9, 2009 18:30:04 GMT -5
p.s. I just saw this quote from Kevin about what he'd like to do next: “ But I think I’ve always wanted to do something a bit more organic, less programming and with more piano and with a real band – group of musicians – something a little more raw. So that’s something that’s been in my head, maybe that will happen if nothing else comes up I’ll be forced to.” Source: www.nonelouder.com/profiles/blogs/on-the-page-an-interview-with>>>>>A band project, exactly what I was envisioning (re: DeGarmo and Matheos). All you need is a regular bassist and drummer... |
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Post by vivace on Jul 9, 2009 18:34:37 GMT -5
Frankly i think i might like to hear him explore his own ideas more freely. i.e. without Matheos (and certainly without DeGarmo!!  ) |
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Post by ckfan on Jul 10, 2009 8:23:13 GMT -5
I agree with Vivace's responses to the proposal.
Degarmo has done wonderful things in the past, but does he even still make music?
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