Lyrics, themes, connections

[vivace]

Jul 21, 2009 12:29:24 GMT -5 communicant said:

The lyric "i feel like an astronaut in a submarine" (probably my favorite lyric ever) came into my mind while reading this. Submarines would have radio logs, I'd imagine.

yes. This would also be consistent with not ever mentioning wind.
But then there are lines like "bailing out the water" and others that make me think twice.

Now i have been thinking about 6:00...Does it have anything special to do with the tide?

[2chaos4u]

I understand his lyrics perfectly.
There was a member of my garage band back when we were late teens. We had a member
just up and quit and stop talking to us for years. He wrote some of our best stuff. I saw him years later and he wasn't interested in music anymore and finally got an explanation. Below is how things played out with him.

Once you know the scene all the lyrics fall together and make perfect sense.

Religious family.
Interested in music because someone you have a crush on does
Improve to impress that person
Dreams of a life with that person
That person gets a steady lover, talks marriage
Write bitter lyrics
Quit
Ignore the other band members because the situation was very emotional
Move away to get far from the situation


A Rob Halford of keyboardists that is shy and brought up by an overly religious family. He keeps on running to be comfortable in his own skin. Think of it in that situation without giving me a hard time. It fits.


"so i tell myself in a daydream trance
when i wake back up give me half a chance
then a girl showed up (she was heaven sent)
so i sent her back (wasn't what i meant)"

""Do you like women?"
"Yip."
"Do you like women as people?"
"Yes, I mean uh... I don't see um... apart from... in the realms of pathology
how one could feel otherwise. Um, the biological needed dependency to know
women is basic... There are, there are, I've met men who don't like women,
but they seem to be extreme cases. I think you can like women in um... without,
without being a model of um ... without feeling a great pressure ...""

"'I've been thinking take up drinking
throw a few bad years away
keep redialing and wake up smiling
maybe he'll be in today

gimme that ol' time religion yeah
gimme that ol' time religion yeah
"

"...I confess, I confess... I confess and I apologize in advance too. I
apologize in advance for unforseen sins forthcoming. I apologize for
unforseen sins of the forces of the foreskin. I couldn't have forseen they
were forthcoming and, and since it was the fourth time and since him being
the only one on the scene for a sin, forsooth, so lowly, on second sight on
my part, Lord, just call me
"

DT Lyrics
"We fabricate our demons
Invite them into our homes
Have supper with the aliens
And fight the war alone
We conjure up our skeletons
Enlist the den of thieves
Frightened from our closets
Then sewn upon our sleeves

"And the cold hard look in your eyes
Is more than a line in the sand
When the truth gets hard to imagine
The hours get harder to stand"

[vivace]

Was his family/upbringing really *that* religious? (not trying to give you a hard time, just wondering

[2chaos4u]

Catholic from what I've read. Judging by his (religious themed) lyrics and some of the later DT lyrics I'm guessing pretty religious.

Not as bad as the Westboro like church I attended in the South though for sure that advocated beating the demons from people and bricking (throwing bricks through the windows) any business deemed as being immoral.

I was just speculating that if you take into the context of the above post the lyrics to me make a lot of sense. I'm not bashing him or anything. He is whom he is and makes great art out of it.

[Mebert78]

Hmm, i actually thought Kev grew up in a religious household and had mentioned that in an interview, but i couldn't find it any interviews. I just checked them all. Idk.

[Mebert78]

Jul 21, 2009 12:29:24 GMT -5 communicant said:

The lyric "i feel like an astronaut in a submarine" (probably my favorite lyric ever) came into my mind while reading this. Submarines would have radio logs, I'd imagine.

That's a good point! But in Radiologue, I get the impression he is talking about a boat that floats because he refers to waves and wind. But it's all interconnected, I'm sure, in a subconscious way. So far, songs with boat/waves themes are below. Wow, there's one for each album CK/OSI album:

Even the Waves
Astronaut in a Submarine
Sad Sad Movie (just one line: "love is in the sails...")
Memory Daydream Lapses
Bigger Wave
Radiologue

[vivace]

You know i was just reading the Nonelouder interview again. Kevin says in many of his previous lyrics he was writing about things that perhaps only he understood. So i mean maybe it is not completely subconscious.

Colorblind (first stanza) and S.O.S(man i just realized how much love this song)
thats it im voting DAFR!!

[Mebert78]

This is true, vivace. Good point. I suppose some of the connections are intentional, but I have to think some of them (like the two 6:00 time referrences) are accidental. I think he would be surprised at some of the reccuring patterns we picked out. But yea, Blood does seem to have some intentional links to past songs.